Curse

gervasium · Mar 30, 2007, 10:02 AM // 10:02

Sorry, I didn't want to be rude. It's just that I had just come from a forum where people were saying the seers lived in Orr and that the mursaat had sunken orr because they hated the seers... I was really irritated with that. I apologize.

However, it has been told that GWEN will pass shortly after the previous campaigns. And, about gwen, she will really appear on GWEN and I could bet that with you. If you read the PCgamer article, right by the woman's picture, you can find a legend that states we met that woman as a child in prophecies and we'll meet her on GWEN. It would be rather silly from Anet to make that child be any other than Gwen, since there's no other relevant child we find in the prophecies campaign.

Monk Gsb · Mar 30, 2007, 10:53 AM // 10:53

on wiki ( not guildwiki but the real thing ) Gw:en will follow on from the prophicies campaign, so it will happen after the door of kalmirie (Spelling) opens the path to the Relm of tourment and releaces the titans into the land of tryia.

Quote from :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guild_W...e_of_the_North

"Eye of the North will feature no new professions, but will have 18 new "multilevel" dungeons, 150 new skills (50 of them disallowed in PvP), 40 new armor sets, and 10 new heroes. It is intended as a bridge from Guild Wars to Guild Wars 2, and will introduce the new races of Norns (dwellers on the icy slopes of the Shiverpeak Mountains to the north), Asurians (inhabitants of the western Maguuma Jungle) and Sylvanians that will be playable in the sequel.

Eye of the North will continue the Prophecies story, which will be told in three acts."

this leads me to belive that the "campaings" ( if we can call them this) are set like:
Prophices
Gw:en
factions
nf

just my idears, dont read much lore but hope this helps.

p.s dont flame too bad if i got somthing wrong.

Arduin · Mar 30, 2007, 11:00 AM // 11:00

Quote from :http://guildwars.com/press/releases/...ofthenorth.php

In the face of Tyria's greatest challenges, heroes have arisen to thwart the forces of darkness. The Titans have been driven back to the demon realms, Shiro has been unmasked, and Abaddon has fallen.

Now a new darkness threatens Tyria. Great earthquakes wrack the lands, opening huge underground complexes beneath the earth. Boiling up from that darkness, an ancient enemy may spell the end of the Age of Man...

So the events of Eye of the North takes place after the Prophecies, Factions and Nightfall campaigns.

Not flaming you

Glass Of Water · Mar 30, 2007, 11:38 AM // 11:38

Many people asked me how I presumed Gwen was traveling. That...I haven't exactly determined yet. Since the preserved Iris Flower shows up in an area infested by SKALE, which were also numerous in pre-searing, their movement may have something to do with hers (not to mention they also somehow survived the searing). If you remember correctly, most of her item's in post-searing were found near major bodies of water and skale. I'm presuming she is traveling by boat...if not by the new series of "underground tunnels" which will be discovered in Eye of the North. If she is traveling by the new tunnels (I'm leaning toward the tunnels), it would seem that many amphibious (sp) creatures are also using them as a method of transportation. Her tattered cape was found with a breed of SKALES near Fisherman's Haven....and the preserved Flower was found near more SKALES in Elona.

I am quite certain Gwen's movement is somehow tied to the Skale.

IMPORTANT:Remember this....the many breeds of SKALE survived the searing somehow (which is also where many of her items appear in pre and post)...and if they happen to be traveling by underground tunnel, Gwen may be as well. Perhaps any creatures in the tunnels could ahev survived the searing?

EDIT: The "Ancient Enemy" which will rise from the underground may be the skale that survived in the tunnels with Gwen...VERY probable considering that if Gwen is traveling underground, so are the skale that are always near evidence of her movement.

Dfx Gladiator · Mar 30, 2007, 09:22 PM // 21:22

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Originally Posted by Glass Of Water

EDIT: The "Ancient Enemy" which will rise from the underground may be the skale that survived in the tunnels with Gwen...VERY probable considering that if Gwen is traveling underground, so are the skale that are always near evidence of her movement.

"Now a new darkness threatens Tyria. Great earthquakes wrack the lands, opening huge underground complexes beneath the earth. Boiling up from that darkness, an ancient enemy may spell the end of the Age of Man..."

What is this new dark and powerfull threat?

A scale...? -.-

Kotetsu Rain · Mar 31, 2007, 11:00 AM // 11:00

In pre-searing Gwen had many adventures with you. You explored the cornors of Ascalon together (hopefully) but she never went into the catacombs with you for she had also heard the rumors of how dangerous it was.

Heres what I think happened. The Searing starts fireballs falling, echos of Charr noises raging throught Ascalon. (Probably over exagerating but you get the picture.) Gwen tries to run away but she knwos if the Charr are invading then theres nothing that can stop them from finding her in any of the towns they're plundering. So she runs to the one place where no one will ever think to look (dropping her flute on the way). The Catacombs.

After wandering and roaming, there she meets Asura's who also live underground. They protect and raise her so she has absolutly no contact with humans. (Kinda guessing since she (if it's her) looks so nervous and shy in the pic in PC Gamer.) So she's chilling with the Asura's in the Catacombs popping up from underground and losing her stuff.

When she came up from the catacombs in Stingray Strand (or nearby) for whatever reason her cape finally falls off. (tattered girls cape) Deeply saddened by the loss she cries and goes to wash her face in the water.

Then wouldn't you know out pops some Corsair pirates there to rob the girl. gwen having had no contact with humans for so long but also not being stupid decides to give the last thing that she has to remeber of Ascalon. Her preserved red iris flower... The corsair want more but then they're jumped by the Asura who after the scaring away of the Corsair scold Gwen for roaming off on her own and down to the tunnels/dungeouns they go.

Crazy yes..very crazy. I don't even believe any of it myself but I wanted to cntribute SOMETHING.

Please delete if people start flaming me or become scared of me. Please?

Free Runner · Mar 31, 2007, 12:43 PM // 12:43

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We dont know for sure we meet Gwen at all..it is speculation based on the acroynym for the expansion, rumor and a picture. If Anet has said for sure that we will meet Gwen herself....someone please post the link .

Late response but in the magazine it stated in Act 2 of EotN we would meet some familiar faces. It showed the picture of Gwen in her green dress and at the bottom it stated one of the people we would meet,we had already met as a child in Prophecies.

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Originally Posted by Glass Of Water

EDIT: The "Ancient Enemy" which will rise from the underground may be the skale that survived in the tunnels with Gwen...VERY probable considering that if Gwen is traveling underground, so are the skale that are always near evidence of her movement.

Of course! its not the Great Destroyer,the one that all Dwarves fear so much they cannot speak his name, spelling the end for the Age of Man!....its the Scale!

Okay on to the real thing. The last we saw of Gwen was when the searing hit. We know sometime after that the Charr moved through to Orr. I have one theory. This actually doesnt note the existance of the Preserved Red Iris flower before people jump in asking how did the PRI flower end up in Elona.

My thoughts are that maybe the Charr that went on to Orr took her. Of course knowing the Charr she would must likely had been struck down at first sight. But going off their Lady Athela kidnapping, they could of perhaps taken Gwen through to Orr with plans to burn her at somepoint. When they got to the outskirts of Orr....BAM......Orr goes down.

It sinks after the explosion leaving hundreds of Charr dead and hundreds other wounded. Gwen who is held near the back of the warband is on ground hit by the blast causing the ground she was on to give way. She falls through with other Charr and somehow lives. Wounded she is found by the Asura.......her stuff washs up on the shores.

Eldin · Apr 01, 2007, 12:24 AM // 00:24

Glass, you bring up a LOT of valid points. But knowing ANet though, they haven't planned out Gwen's story yet and just like confusing us.

Perhaps Gwen put her soul into her belongings? XD

We will have to hunt down all of her belongings and put them on some poor sucker, which will allow her to possess that person.

...though future-Gwen looks too much like Gwen to be a "poor sucker" unless the possessee (victim) gains her traits.

...or, here's a third theory I posted in another thread:

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The Great Destroyer is mentioned in dwarf lore, though it would be interesting if Gwen were really the great destroyer shapeshifting? (The only way she could be a young lady in GW:EN is if she shapeshifted/entered a time warp, or GW:EN takes place in the future, but that makes no sense since it's for already-existing lvl 20s)

Gwen could be like Khilbron. Helping us, and then...BOOM! She transforms.

...or maybe Gwen IS the flower! Those crystals were huge but there were a ton of flowers, they couldn't ALL have been smashed to pieces (plus they only would spawn when you went near them, even lessening the chance of them all being wiped out).

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EDIT: Wait! The Frog said the preserved red iris flower is a symbol of Gwen's condition. Does that mean she is preserved, as in safe from harm?

Mesmer in Need · Apr 01, 2007, 01:06 AM // 01:06

Gwen should be a mesmer because she pwns. Ive also noticed the thing about GW:EN, which dumbstruck me when i first saw it. The iris flowers might have something to to with the next chapter... all we have to do is wait...

Pwny Ride · Apr 01, 2007, 06:36 AM // 06:36

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Originally Posted by Mesmer in Need

Gwen should be a mesmer because she pwns. Ive also noticed the thing about GW:EN, which dumbstruck me when i first saw it. The iris flowers might have something to to with the next chapter... all we have to do is wait...

Wow, so its that simple?

Mesmer in Need · Apr 01, 2007, 07:15 AM // 07:15

everything will be learned eventually, so ya.

darkknightdominator · Apr 01, 2007, 01:10 PM // 13:10

GWEN = Mesmer. hmm

In Pre, Gwen was a monk...

Kotetsu Rain · Apr 01, 2007, 03:37 PM // 15:37

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Originally Posted by darkknightdominator

GWEN = Mesmer. hmm

In Pre, Gwen was a monk...

Actually she wasn't. When you get healed by Gwen you can she (if you click on her) that she isn't using a skill. Also whenever she heals you you hear the music of her Flute.

D E C E P T I V E · Apr 04, 2007, 07:32 PM // 19:32

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Originally Posted by Mournblade

If thats the case then Gwen truly IS evil - if she could make an herbal bulwark for the Searing, then why didn't she share it with anybody? Gods know there were red iris flowers all over Ascalon, she could have saved a few more people...

Well, she doesnt have to be evil, she may have just liked the flowers and had no idea of their protective properties. The whole Beta Weekend Event with the evil gwen, and the tainted gwen thing in pre is reason for suspicion though.

Kotetsu Rain · Apr 04, 2007, 08:41 PM // 20:41

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Originally Posted by D E C E P T I V E

Well, she doesnt have to be evil, she may have just liked the flowers and had no idea of their protective properties. The whole Beta Weekend Event with the evil gwen, and the tainted gwen thing in pre is reason for suspicion though.

May I point out that in the Factions beta Event Kunnavang came and killed everyone?

SotiCoto · Apr 05, 2007, 09:38 AM // 09:38

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Originally Posted by Dfx Gladiator

"Now a new darkness threatens Tyria. Great earthquakes wrack the lands, opening huge underground complexes beneath the earth. Boiling up from that darkness, an ancient enemy may spell the end of the Age of Man..."

What is this new dark and powerfull threat?

... Someone p!ssed off [wiki]Mungri Magicbox[/wiki]. O_O;;

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Originally Posted by Kotetsu Rain

May I point out that in the Factions beta Event Kunnavang came and killed everyone?

So Gwen and Kuuny are in on it together. Kuuny can fly hella fast, and probably teleport too (lesser saltspray dragons can ride the lightning)... so I imagine Kuuny transported Gwen from Ascalon to Elona....
Problem solved. ^_^

Kynareth Adeus · Apr 10, 2007, 03:19 AM // 03:19

Dudes. Gwen's an IW. She wants to be a warrior, but she likes the way mesmers look better. Duh.

Plus, how the hell is Gwen, who was like 7 in presearing, now like 20something in GW:EN? It's obvious that she has time travel abilities.

Kotetsu Rain · Apr 10, 2007, 09:37 AM // 09:37

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Originally Posted by Kynareth Adeus

Dudes. Gwen's an IW. She wants to be a warrior, but she likes the way mesmers look better. Duh.

Plus, how the hell is Gwen, who was like 7 in presearing, now like 20something in GW:EN? It's obvious that she has time travel abilities.

I don't think she looks 20. Theres the twin events of the Lich's efforts of trying to open the door and Shiro's catalysmic action of the Jde win. Then we know that the time line between Prophecies/Cantha and Nightfall are 3 years. (Which still doesn't explain WHY you can go from Nightfall to Prophecies/Cantha and have to deal with the same stuff from 3 years ago.)

So yeah I think Gwen in pre-seering is around the 7-10 age range which would have to make her in the 10-13 range. She kinda looks like a teenager to me.

Unless they make it that Gwen happens a couple of years AFTER you kick the Lich to the curb it'll be a mystery to us all.

My guess is thy're gonna say that time goes faster underground.

Onarik Amrak · Apr 10, 2007, 11:25 AM // 11:25

The campaigns are set a couple of years apart, so by the time of GW:EN she'd probably be 15-17... I think.

Free Runner · Apr 10, 2007, 01:54 PM // 13:54

It would seem EotN happens perhaps a few years after the defeat of Abaddon (after the statement on the EotN page on GW Website)

I would say 2 or 3.